Episodes

Monday May 01, 2023
Episode 82 - The Shift in Cyber Insurance - Kaitlin Upchurch
Monday May 01, 2023
Monday May 01, 2023
If I told you that you were responsible for coordinating the annual renewal of your organization’s cyber insurance policy, you might scream and run for the door. It’s been a hard market. But, it seems like all of that is changing.
Hello everyone, welcome to episode 82 - as the Resilience Think Tank presents the Resilient Journey podcast! Today I’m joined by Kaitlin Upchurch, Cyber & Technology Practice Leader for Lockton.
In this week’s episode, Kaitlin talks about the shift that is occurring in the cyber insurance market.
We talk about how organizations have improved their response to a cyber incident.
And we look at the hoops that organizations have to jump through to get insurance – from two completely different perspectives. And…you’ll have to listen to find out which one of us is right!
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Monday Apr 24, 2023
Episode 81 - Active Attacker, This is Life Now - Carine Thorkelson
Monday Apr 24, 2023
Monday Apr 24, 2023
There was a shooting recently at a shopping mall closest to my home. This is the mall that I took my kids to when they were little. The following morning my daughter texted me with the news of the shooting. Her message was, “Happy Easter, this is life now.”
Hello everyone, welcome to episode 81 - as the Resilience Think Tank presents the Resilient Journey podcast! Today I’m joined by emergency management and business continuity thought leader Carine Thorkelson.
In this week’s episode, Carine and I talk about how important it is for you to consider active attackers and acts of violence in your business continuity and crisis management program. We talk about good practices for Run, Hide and Fight and the value of appointing staff to interact with law enforcement.
As my daughter said, this is life now. And your resilience program better being paying attention. What can you learn from this episode? Let’s find out.
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Monday Apr 17, 2023
Episode 80 - The Value of a Good Industry Profile - Lisa Jones
Monday Apr 17, 2023
Monday Apr 17, 2023
Whether you’re new to the resilience industry or a seasoned old pro like me, we all have one thing in common. We have a brand, an industry profile. And on today’s episode we’re going to talk about how growing your brand can improve your career.
Hello everyone, welcome to episode 80 - as the Resilience Think Tank presents the Resilient Journey podcast! Today I’m joined by one of the hottest names in resilience – Lisa Jones!
In addition to being one of the managing partners of the Resilience Think Tank, Lisa is a popular conference speaker, frequent webinar host, chapter leader for the BCI US and she sits on the editorial advisory board for DRJ.
I chat with Lisa about the value of growing your profile, how to break in to presenting at conferences and the boost it can bring to your career.
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Monday Apr 03, 2023
Episode 79 - The Future of Resilience
Monday Apr 03, 2023
Monday Apr 03, 2023
We all approach our careers differently and have different perspectives. But one thing we have in common is the future is yet unknown. Here at the Resilience Think Tank, we asked you to tell us – what is the future of resilience?
Hello everyone, welcome to episode 79 - as the Resilience Think Tank presents the Resilient Journey podcast! Today I’m joined by a number of my colleagues as we discuss the future of resilience.
First, I’m joined by RTT co-founder and managing partner Milena Maneva as she tells us about her favorite future of resilience submissions. Then I’m joined by four resilience professionals who expand on their submissions and tell me why we must be connected to each other, why they are optimistic, feel uncertain or even that the future is unnecessarily complex.
This episode is dedicated to the loving memory of Karen Beeson.
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Monday Mar 20, 2023
Episode 78 - Down & Back - The Essence of Resilience - Justin Bourne
Monday Mar 20, 2023
Monday Mar 20, 2023
Have you ever reached a point in your life that you would consider “rock bottom”. What did you do about it? Did you know, that even at rock bottom you have a choice? You can be resilient or find an even lower rock bottom.
Hello everyone, welcome to episode 78 - as the Resilience Think Tank presents the Resilient Journey podcast! Today I’m joined by NHL analyst and author of the new book Down and Back – Justin Bourne.
Justin and I talk about how alcohol went from being something he casually enjoyed to something he had to have and the impact it was having on his life. He explains that as a situation deteriorates, it’s a good idea to think about what comes next if you stay on your current path.
We discuss how maintaining status quo isn’t always a good plan and Justin explains why sometimes "you gotta do what you gotta do."
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Monday Mar 13, 2023
Episode 77 - Improving Resilience Through Peer Networking - Nick Jonsson
Monday Mar 13, 2023
Monday Mar 13, 2023
I would like you to think for a moment and decide what your number one work related challenge is. Now I want you think about who is best suited to listen, support and offer advice regarding that challenge.
Hello everyone, welcome to episode 77 - as the Resilience Think Tank presents the Resilient Journey podcast! Today I’m joined by internationally best selling author of the book Executive Loneliness, Nick Jonsson.
Nick talks about the role peer networks play in supporting like-minded professionals. How having conversations with people at your level can help you grow.
We also focus on the importance of personal resilience for those building professional resilience programs.
In our industry, the Resilience Think Tank is a peer network that can help you rise above current challenges and grow to new heights. Learn more at resiliencethinktank.com
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Monday Mar 06, 2023
Episode 76 - Mass Notification System Best Practices - Jeff Brainard
Monday Mar 06, 2023
Monday Mar 06, 2023
If I had to communicate with you during a crisis, what should I do? Text you? Call you? Send you an email? Well, in an emergency – I might want to do all three – or even something more.
Hello everyone, welcome to episode 76 - as the Resilience Think Tank presents The Resilient Journey podcast! Today I’m joined by Jeff Brainard and we’re talking best practices for setting up and using a mass notification system.
Jeff and I talk about why – with a good tool, you can go BEYOND the typical phone / text / email approach. And you might be surprised where you can post emergency messages these days!
We discuss two key areas of using a mass notification system – your people and your messaging. We cover must have features of an MNS, and best techniques for communicating during unexpected events.
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Monday Feb 27, 2023
Monday Feb 27, 2023
You may not be familiar with the term “location intelligence”, but you use it every day. It’s the basis of your GPS navigation and much more. But done right, it can be a valuable tool for resilience professionals to massively increase your program’s value.
Hello everyone, welcome to episode 75 - as the Resilience Think Tank presents the Resilient Journey podcast! Today I’m joined by Alex Martonik and we’re talking about how location data can be leveraged to enhance your risk and resilience programs and even provide your organization with competitive advantage.
Alex discusses the value of sharing important data, not using our own jargon – but speaking in terms that show business value.
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Monday Feb 20, 2023
Episode 74 - A Detached Approach to Cyber Crisis Management - Nick Scozzaro
Monday Feb 20, 2023
Monday Feb 20, 2023
Usually we think that being detached during a crisis would be a bad thing, but today’s guest explains why it could be better to be detached by design. As we look to improve cyber crisis response, is it time for a different approach?
Hello everyone, welcome to episode 74 - as the Resilience Think Tank presents the Resilient Journey podcast! Today I’m joined by Nick Scozzaro, CEO & Co-Found of MobiStream and we’re talking about using what he refers to as “out of band” crisis management space. His approach allows the team, documents and conversations to be held outside of your corporate work space.
Nick explains that collaboration and communications are key to a coordinated response and that a coordinated response leads to quicker recovery.
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Monday Feb 13, 2023
Monday Feb 13, 2023
If you had to pick one animal to represent your brand, which one would you choose? An eagle – soaring high? A lion – the king of beasts? Today’s guest chose neither.
Hello everyone, welcome to episode 73 - as the Resilience Think Tank presents the Resilient Journey podcast! Today I’m joined by Susan Shelby and we discuss why acting like a rhino can help you advance your career.
We talk about public relations, crisis communications and why they need to be part of your crisis management toolkit.
Susan and I talk about how pre-drafted communications templates are a lot like the game Mad Libs - and how they will make your life easier during a crisis.
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Special thanks to Bensound for the music.